Hello everyone. It's getting a little chilly around here now; I have seen
the "ventubes" that are being sold for $75 apiece. Has anyone simply taped
over the inlet in the wing root? I was thinking of giving this a try,
seeing that there is no real need for cold air ventilation at this time of
year.

Matt

Matt > wrote:
>Hello everyone. It's getting a little chilly around here now; I have seen
>the "ventubes" that are being sold for $75 apiece. Has anyone simply taped
>over the inlet in the wing root? I was thinking of giving this a try,
>seeing that there is no real need for cold air ventilation at this time of
>year.

The problem is, just putting plain old duct tape on the vents isn't
legal. To make it legal, what you need to do is get a FAA 337 form
and a roll of STC duct tape. Use the STC duct tape to tape the 337
form over the vent and you're good to go.

Rather than tape on the outside, try taping over the outlets on the
inside of the cabin. Another option is stuffing a bit of foam into
the outlets inside the cabin. I went the foam route on the
outlets in the cherokee -- they're close to the floor. Which means
in nice, sunny weather, the body and head are nice and warm, and
the feet are icicles...

Roy Smith wrote:
> Matt > wrote:
>> Hello everyone. It's getting a little chilly around here now; I have seen
>> the "ventubes" that are being sold for $75 apiece. Has anyone simply taped
>> over the inlet in the wing root? I was thinking of giving this a try,
>> seeing that there is no real need for cold air ventilation at this time of
>> year.
>
> The problem is, just putting plain old duct tape on the vents isn't
> legal. To make it legal, what you need to do is get a FAA 337 form
> and a roll of STC duct tape. Use the STC duct tape to tape the 337
> form over the vent and you're good to go.

Use the clear packing tape, nobody at a distance, can see it...

Does the term "red rubber ball" have any help here?

Jim




"Matt" > wrote in message
m...
> Hello everyone. It's getting a little chilly around here now; I have seen
> the "ventubes" that are being sold for $75 apiece. Has anyone simply
> taped over the inlet in the wing root? I was thinking of giving this a
> try, seeing that there is no real need for cold air ventilation at this
> time of year.
>
> Matt
>

Have you considered having a cockpit fire?

"Brien K. Meehan" > wrote:
> Have you considered having a cockpit fire?

Yes, but I find that gathering the kindling before the flight is a bit of a
hassle.

I would prefer to just minimize the cold air entering past the vents.

"Matt" > wrote in message
m...
> Hello everyone. It's getting a little chilly around here now; I have seen
> the "ventubes" that are being sold for $75 apiece. Has anyone simply
taped
> over the inlet in the wing root? I was thinking of giving this a try,
> seeing that there is no real need for cold air ventilation at this time of
> year.
>
> Matt

My Cessna vents were made 58 years ago and don't leak a bit. Rebuild them
with new felt and they should work just like new.

Dave Stadt wrote:
> "Matt" > wrote in message
> m...
>
>>Hello everyone. It's getting a little chilly around here now; I have seen
>>the "ventubes" that are being sold for $75 apiece. Has anyone simply
>
> taped
>
>>over the inlet in the wing root? I was thinking of giving this a try,
>>seeing that there is no real need for cold air ventilation at this time of
>>year.
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> My Cessna vents were made 58 years ago and don't leak a bit. Rebuild them
> with new felt and they should work just like new.
>
>

Yes, I rebuilt the one's on my 67 Skylane and they sealed well after that.

Matt

Matt > wrote:
: "Brien K. Meehan" > wrote:
:> Have you considered having a cockpit fire?

: Yes, but I find that gathering the kindling before the flight is a bit of a
: hassle.

Try dumping the 100LL from the fuel samples into a can full of sand and
igniting it. It should keep you nice & warm... :)

: I would prefer to just minimize the cold air entering past the vents.

The flight school that I went to has a large number of beat-up 152's.
They duct tape the air intakes at the wing root each year. It works great.
--
Aaron C.

Ah, okay. It's just as well, since those vents might be really, really
handy to use if you actually did have a fire in the engine compartment
or instrument panel, and you wouldn't be able to they were taped shut
from the outside. Now, just don't have an unintentional fire, and
you'll be all set.

Brien K. Meehan wrote:
> Ah, okay. It's just as well, since those vents might be really, really
> handy to use if you actually did have a fire in the engine compartment
> or instrument panel, and you wouldn't be able to they were taped shut
> from the outside. Now, just don't have an unintentional fire, and
> you'll be all set.
>
Open the window?
Michelle

Matt wrote:
> Hello everyone. It's getting a little chilly around here now; I have seen
> the "ventubes" that are being sold for $75 apiece. Has anyone simply taped
> over the inlet in the wing root?

I've seen some people use duct tape for this. It tends to leave a residue that's
difficult to get off later, but it works. Other people stuff foam rubber plugs
in the holes.

Both of these techniques leave you with one problem. The OAT gauge is in one of
those vents. Plug the vent, the gauge reads high once the cabin warms up.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

George Patterson wrote:

> Matt wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone. It's getting a little chilly around here now; I have
>> seen the "ventubes" that are being sold for $75 apiece. Has anyone
>> simply taped over the inlet in the wing root?
>
>
> I've seen some people use duct tape for this. It tends to leave a
> residue that's difficult to get off later, but it works. Other people
> stuff foam rubber plugs in the holes.
>
> Both of these techniques leave you with one problem. The OAT gauge is in
> one of those vents. Plug the vent, the gauge reads high once the cabin
> warms up.

Yes, and given how easy it is to fix the vents properly, I've always
wondered why folks wanted to kludge it.


Matt

Michelle wrote:
> Open the window?

That's one of a few options.

In every one of the hundred or so Cessnas I've been in, that doesn't
move a lot of air into the cabin, though.

I don't think it would work as well at clearing smoke out of my face as
the overhead vents, but maybe it might perhaps. I can think of only
one way to find out.

Brien K. Meehan wrote:
> Michelle wrote:
>
>>Open the window?
>
>
> That's one of a few options.
>
> In every one of the hundred or so Cessnas I've been in, that doesn't
> move a lot of air into the cabin, though.
>
> I don't think it would work as well at clearing smoke out of my face as
> the overhead vents, but maybe it might perhaps. I can think of only
> one way to find out.
>
During the summer we fly with the windows open and it does move air.
Then again we had every thing open when it got hot.
Michelle

Brien K. Meehan wrote:

> In every one of the hundred or so Cessnas I've been in, that doesn't
> move a lot of air into the cabin, though.

It moved a lot in my C-150J.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

George Patterson wrote:
> Brien K. Meehan wrote:
>
>> In every one of the hundred or so Cessnas I've been in, that doesn't
>> move a lot of air into the cabin, though.
>
>
> It moved a lot in my C-150J.

I took the arm off the window of my 182 for taking pictures. Lots of
air comes in, all of it in the back.

Newps wrote:

> I took the arm off the window of my 182 for taking pictures. Lots of
> air comes in, all of it in the back.

That was my experience in the 150 except for the fact that things also got quite
windy over on the passenger side. Basically, the air came in the pilot's side,
curved around the back of the cabin, and created a fair amount of turbulence
around the passenger seat. I had to secure my chart.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

Ooooh. Can I watch?

{;-)

Jim



"Michelle" > wrote in message
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> Then again we had every thing open when it got hot.
> Michelle

Ever see Goldfinger?

"Michelle" > wrote in message
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> Open the window?
> Michelle

RST Engineering wrote:
> Ooooh. Can I watch?
>
> {;-)
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> "Michelle" > wrote in message
> news:BDjtf.47$
>
>
>
>>Then again we had every thing open when it got hot.
>>Michelle
>
>
>
I would have flown naked if I thought I could get away with it.....
Michelle ;-)

Steve Foley wrote:
> Ever see Goldfinger?
>
> "Michelle" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>
>
>>Open the window?
>>Michelle
>
>
>
Yeah I own it. it was on Spike TV a few days ago.
Michelle

Michelle wrote:
> RST Engineering wrote:
>
>> Ooooh. Can I watch?
>>
>> {;-)
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> "Michelle" > wrote in message
>> news:BDjtf.47$
>>
>>
>>
>>> Then again we had every thing open when it got hot.
>>> Michelle
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I would have flown naked if I thought I could get away with it.....
> Michelle ;-)

Is there an FAR that prohibits that? :-)


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Michelle wrote:
>
>> RST Engineering wrote:
>>
>>> Ooooh. Can I watch?
>>>
>>> {;-)
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Michelle" > wrote in
>>> message news:BDjtf.47$
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Then again we had every thing open when it got hot.
>>>> Michelle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I would have flown naked if I thought I could get away with it.....
>> Michelle ;-)
>
>
> Is there an FAR that prohibits that? :-)
>
>
> Matt
No but my observer and boss might have a problem with it. The fuel pump
is close to the road and once on the ladder you are visible over the fence.
Michelle

Michelle wrote:

> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Michelle wrote:
>>
>>> RST Engineering wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ooooh. Can I watch?
>>>>
>>>> {;-)
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Michelle" > wrote in
>>>> message news:BDjtf.47$
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Then again we had every thing open when it got hot.
>>>>> Michelle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I would have flown naked if I thought I could get away with it.....
>>> Michelle ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there an FAR that prohibits that? :-)
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
> No but my observer and boss might have a problem with it. The fuel pump
> is close to the road and once on the ladder you are visible over the fence.
> Michelle

You said flying naked, not preflighting in the nude! :-)


Matt

("Michelle" wrote)
> I would have flown naked if I thought I could get away with it.....


Carnac the Magnificent:

A: Nudist beach

The envelope...

Q: Michelle in a Bonanza.


Montblack

>> I would have flown naked if I thought I could get away with it.....

> Carnac the Magnificent:
>
> A: Nudist beach
>
> The envelope...


Q: What do you call a Bonanza piloted by Michelle?


(There, that's better)


Montblack
.....headache this morning. Wine!!

I bought the $75 Ventubes and put them in w/ my mechanic in less than an
hour. I did it to solve this problem. They work fine and they solve the
problem completely. They come with the STC. Sporty's has much classier
(and much more expensive) ones.

DB

"Michelle" > wrote in message
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> No but my observer and boss might have a problem with it. The fuel pump is
> close to the road and once on the ladder you are visible over the fence.
> Michelle

May I fill your tanks? No really, I don't mind at all.

I got this sugestion off the CPA forum and it works quite well for the
cost. Go to walmart and buy a pack of sticky backed velcro for $5.
Apply the fuzzy half to the orange juice cans as weather stripping.

Helen